Vigil for Immigrants in Stroudsburg

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STROUDSBURG -- A vigil in support of Muslim-Americans and immigrants in Stroudsburg included songs and signs.

Even though President Trump's executive order banning immigration from seven predominantly Muslim nations has been struck down by the courts, participants at the vigil fear it could be reinstated.

"We have a friend who is a dual citizen of Iran and the United States. The order was signed while he was in the air traveling from Iran. He's from here as well and it's made his life a living hell and those of his relatives as well," said Lou Rogai of Delaware Water Gap.

The vigil also included speakers from the Muslim community in Stroudsburg.

62 comments

  • duh

    “Hate has no home here” says one of the protesters. So I guess 9/11, Fort Hood, Boston, and Orlando were just them showing their love for us. All those attacks were carried out by people with one thing in common. Those women should try to live in one of the countries that they are fighting for, see if their viewpoint changes.

    • Givemeabreak

      I am pretty sure all of those shootings were done by US citizens with the exception of 9/11. I believe most of the attackers on 9/11 were from Saudia Ariaba, Egypt, The United Arab Emirates and Lebanon. None of those countries were listed in the temporary ban. Fort Hood was one of our own US army majors. Orlando was another born and raised US citizen. The Boston attackers were also both US citizens but the were born in Kyrgyzstan part of the USSR from 1876 to 1990. The San Bernardino shooters were Muslim but we’re also born and bread here.
      Now think about every other mass shooting that’s happened in our country. All done by US citizens. Timothy McVeigh was a US citizen, Sandy hook, Charles Whitman the list just goes on and on. There have been over 125 mass shootings in our history which would all be viewed as terror attacks today.

      I want to be safe but being safe and feeling safe are two different things. None of us will ever truly be safe. That is just the reality of it and our media and our leaders have made us think the sky is falling when in reality we were always in danger. No one can truly protect another and a this temporary ban is just a blip in the grand scheme of things and has made us in reality no safer at all.
      There are over 800,000 gang members in America. Over 15000 gang related murders the FBI estimates just from 2007 to 2012 but we keep hashing this dumb ban when we are our own worst enemy. It’s everybody else but us when in reality we are the biggest perpetrators of terror.

      • GetOnBoard

        Fort Hood, Texas, November 5, 2009. Major Nidal Malik Hasan shot up a military base in Fort Hood and murdered 14 people. Hasan was in contact with al-Qaeda terrorist Anwar al-Awlaki prior to the attack and shouted “Allahu Akbar!” as he fired upon the soldiers on the Fort Hood base. After being sentenced to death, Hasan requested to join ISIS while on death row. It took six years for Obama to acknowledge the shooting as a terror attack instead of “workplace violence.”

        Boston, Massachusetts, April 15, 2013. Tamerlan and Dhozkar Tsarnaev set off two bombs at the 2013 Boston marathon, killing three and injuring over 260 people. The Tsarnaev brothers later shot and murdered Massachusetts Institute of Technology police officer Sean Collier. The Tsarnaev brothers were self-radicalized through online jihadist propaganda and through a mosque with ties to al-Qaeda.

        San Bernardino, California, December 14, 2015. Two radical Islamists, Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik, shot and murdered 14 people and injured 22 others at an office holiday party.

        Orlando, Florida, June 12, 2016. Omar Mateen, 29, opened fire at a gay nightclub, killing 49 and injuring 53. The FBI investigated Mateen twice before his rampage, but did not take any substantive action. Officials believe Mateen was self-radicalized but he pledged fealty to ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi before his death. “The real muslims will never accept the filthy ways of the west,” Mateen posted on his Facebook page after committing his heinous act at Pulse nightclub. “I pledge my alliance to (ISIS leader) abu bakr al Baghdadi..may Allah accept me,” he wrote.

        Orlando could have been stopped . Omar was under investigation ,But your friend Hilary and the state dept demanded investigation to end because she did not want to hurt his feelings .

        Can you not see a clear difference ? Yeah, sure they were born here, but all were radicalized . That is the difference between the mass shootings by born Americans. Under the most common definition of terrorism , which I posted for you to see below . It is the use of violence or threat of violence in order to purport a political, religious or ideological change .

        Under Islamic Countries there is no separation of Church and State like in the USA .

        “Here are many reasons why Muslims and their Sharia law has no place in America. Can a good Muslim be a good American or a good Canadian? This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. The following is his reply:
        Theologically – no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia.

        Religiously – no. Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam. (Quran 2:256)

        Scripturally – no. Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.

        Geographically – no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

        Socially – no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

        Politically – no. Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.

        Domestically- no. Because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him. (Quran 4:34)

        Intellectually – no. Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

        Philosophically – no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

        Spiritually – no. Because when we declare ‘one nation under God,’ The Christian’s God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran’s 99 excellent names.

        Therefore, after much study and deliberation; perhaps maybe we should be very suspicious .

        Ever see videos of Dearborn, Michigan ? They don’t want to assimilate with Americans . Why?

      • CeeMe

        The gangs exploded here after groups from Central America crossed our borders. Many of the terrorists you say are home grown, are here because they were born here, but many of their parents come from the Middle East and elsewhere and don’t lose their beliefs and entire identity, the minute the plane lands. In fact, there is no longer any requirement to learn English, in any form and become American. It seems to be an option anymore. You don’t know what you’re talking about, but since you feel so strongly about Muslims and others, you pay for them to be here. I don’t want to.

      • duh

        Thank you for acknowledging that all the attacks I listed were perpetrated by Muslims. I’m not kidding myself that the currently stalled immigration ban will prevent future attacks. You go on and on about the gang epidemic in the USA which is true – but completely irrelevant to the immigration issue. First – keep them from getting here in the first place – next – start cleaning house from the inside. Gang members want power and wealth, not all from murdering. Radical Muslims want the infidels dead, plain and simple.

    • Writer Girl

      Well, Duh…in my post below, I was replying to Give Me a Break, who talks about gangs and immigration and BTW, they are somewhat related…many gangs like MS13, came from elsewhere and now operate here.

  • Givemeabreak

    Why are gang members not listed as terrorists? They commit more homicides here than refugees. They destroy property and terrorize their neighborhood. Everyone talks about taking care of America first. Are the people that live in these cities not Americans? Why is no one concerned about this and only the refugees?
    Trump loves signing executive orders. Why doesn’t he sign one that brands gang members as terrorists? Make the punishment severe for being in any gang and it will keep people from starting new gangs. Problem solved.

    • Jd

      Well, maybe President Trump will get the illegal gang members out first, and build more prisons for the rest of them! Two promises kept. More jobs, less bad guys!

      • Givemeabreak

        Exactly. We could even use them to clean up their own grafitti and fix what they destroyed on a work release. The guards would be heavily armed and or put electric leashes around their neck. If they try to leave the perimeter of the allowed work area they get a large dose of electric current. Similar to a tazer. I don’t even care if some of them where non violent. It is about the message that you are in a gang you go away for a good 50 years. The crime rate would drop significantly, property values would go up increasing tax revenue and a lot of illegal drugs would be off the streets. Then we could get these drug addicts into rehab and in may take since it will be pretty hard to find illegal drugs. Although the legal ones will still be a problem.
        We might be able to reduce police forces across the country and then cut funding for these methodone clinics.
        The threat of long term imprisonment would be enough to deter new gangs and we could stop the cycle and take our country back.

        I don’t see why this isn’t doable?

    • GetOnBoard

      To understand why is to understand what terrorism means.

      There is no universal agreement on the definition of terrorism.Various legal systems and government agencies use different definitions. Moreover, governments have been reluctant to formulate an agreed upon and legally binding definition. These difficulties arise from the fact that the term is politically and emotionally charged. To avoid this kind of confusion, the most common definition of terrorism is used, which includes the following:

      It is the use of violence or threat of violence in order to purport a political, religious, or ideological change.
      It can only be committed by non-state actors or undercover personnel serving on the behalf of their respective governments.
      It reaches more than the immediate target victims and is also directed at targets consisting of a larger spectrum of society.
      It is both mala prohibita (i.e., crime that is made illegal by legislation) and mala in se (i.e., crime that is inherently immoral or wrong).
      The following criteria of violence or threat of violence fall outside of the definition of terrorism:[5][6]

      Wartime (including a declared war) or peacetime acts of violence committed by a nation state against another nation state regardless of legality or illegality that are carried out by properly uniformed forces or legal combatants of such nation states.
      Reasonable acts of self-defense, such as the use of force to kill, apprehend, or punish criminals who pose a threat to the lives of humans or property.
      Legitimate targets in war, such as enemy combatants and strategic infrastructure that are an integral part of the enemy’s war effort.
      Collateral damage, including the infliction of incidental damage to non-combatant targets during an attack on or attempting to attack legitimate targets in war.
      In the meantime, the international community adopted a series of sectoral conventions that define and criminalize various types of terrorist activities. In addition, since 1994, the United Nations General Assembly has condemned terrorist acts using the following political description of terrorism: “Criminal acts intended or calculated to provoke a state of terror in the general public, a group of persons or particular persons for political purposes are in any circumstance unjustifiable, whatever the considerations of a political, philosophical, ideological, racial, ethnic, religious or any other nature that may be invoked to justify them.

      But I do agree there is too much of violence and gang related instances. So then maybe we should close all entry to everyone and clean up our own mess first. Then reopen the country.

      • Givemeabreak

        Sorry I don’t share the same excitement for locking down the boarder. I think our own citizens are more dangerous.

        But after sifting through databases, media reports, court documents, and other sources, Alex Nowrasteh, an immigration expert at the libertarian Cato Institute, has arrived at a striking finding: Nationals of the seven countries singled out by Trump have killed zero people in terrorist attacks on U.S. soil between 1975 and 2015.

        Zero.

        Six Iranians, six Sudanese, two Somalis, two Iraqis, and one Yemeni have been convicted of attempting or executing terrorist attacks on U.S. soil during that time period, according to Nowrasteh’s research. (Nowrasteh focused on plots against the U.S. homeland, which presumably Trump cares most about, rather than other terrorism-related offenses, like supporting a foreign terrorist group or trying to join a jihadist organization overseas.) Zero Libyans and zero Syrians have been convicted of doing the same. “Foreign-born terrorism is a hazard,” Nowrasteh argues, “but it is manageable given the huge economic benefits of immigration and the small costs of terrorism.”

        As for refugees, Nowrasteh writes, Trump’s action “is a response to a phantom menace.” Over the last four decades, 20 out of 3.25 million refugees welcomed to the United States have been convicted of attempting or committing terrorism on U.S. soil, and only three Americans have been killed in attacks committed by refugees—all by Cuban refugees in the 1970s.

        Zero Americans have been killed by Syrian refugees in a terrorist attack in the United States.

        There are over 800,000 gang members in our country.
        The FBI estimates that just between 2007 and 2012 a 5 year period over 15,000 gang related homicides.

        I am all for keeping people safe but I think our daily discussion should be about the people doing the most damage.

    • Writer Girl

      If you listen to political news, Trump did address the gang problem and Obama and plenty of others have signed executive orders.

  • tired old guy

    Protesters are not dumb, they are just uninformed due to the fact that liberals are wired differently from most of us. They only believe in the facts that support their liberal agenda. A government`s first and foremost responsibility is to protect it`s citizens and allowing hundreds of drug cartels, felons people from the middle east without any vetting is to expose citizens of this Country to extreme dangers as we have already seen happen, (Boston bomber,Kate Steinly who died in her fathers arms saying”help me Daddy” shot by an illegal immigrant felon who was deported 5 times and released by a sanctuary city sheriff who refused to hold him for ICE, the Calif massacre, the Florida bar shooting) I could go on and on but what amazes most about these emotionally screwed up liberals is they seem to have no empathy for those families who have lost love ones at the hands of people who should not even have been here in the first place. You would not want to enter Mexico illegally, 9 years in jail right off the top. Vetting works and is nothing more than common sense but of course along with facts that does not meet the liberal agenda and is rigorously denied while they resort to personal attacks and name calling such as “we are all filled with hate”, homophobic, prejudiced and what ever will divert from the real purpose of security measures. Well you stand out in the cold, President Trump is taking steps to protect the people who are citizens of this great Country and come Monday morning he will have signed into law another order banning people from terrorist countries only this time it will be one that will stand against constitutional challenges by the anti American ACLU and the rest of them. You better tell Soros your gonna need a lot more money.

    • Writer Girl

      Politically uniformed = Stupid in today’s society. The worst thing is these stupid people influence other stupid people, who also don’t have a clue.

  • Mi

    For all of those who say that the protesters are dumb deserve their own recognition because like millions of Americans across the country,they are sick of the inequality and the creation of injustice. As for Mr. President Trump, he should focus on the important topics like our health care system, employment, and, criminal justice system instead of imposing laws that violate the constitution like building a wall across the border( like that’s really going to solve our problems, smh..) or banning the entrance of people from the middle east to US. Where as a nation are we going to head next? think about it..

    • WarningFakeNews

      These protests were planned and organized well before President Trump signed the executive order. The left, led by Soros, calculated that this could be the issue which reinvigorates the democrat party. It’s actually harming them more in the process, I wouldn’t care- except that the inability of the government to control immigration is a huge risk for everyone. 19 men with box cutters is all it took to do tremendous damage.

    • GetOnBoard

      Too funny MI

      So Building a wall violates the constitution? You do know about the
      “Secure Fence Act ” signed by Bush back in 2006 ? Way before Trump even had thoughts of running for Presidency.

      He just wants to build a wall instead of fence.

    • CeeMe

      Other countries aren’t perfect, either. This is the real world, not Nirvana or heaven. The U.S. is great compared to other countries. That’s why all these losers want to come here. If you feel this country is so unequal, change places with the “immigrants.” Where is it written, anyway, that we owe the rest of the world a good life?

  • Jd

    I know of one military member working in irac and Afghanistan that was sent home because his life was in jeopardy. He was told if he was caught off base he would be captured, tortured, and beheaded, not by ISIS, or some terror group, but by the locals! They protend they like us. They don’t!

  • A beautiful trump dynasty

    Protest after protest. The groups are getting ssmaller and smaller. They don’t even know what they’re protesting anymore. The protesters are only showing their hatred for the election of Trump. Or should I say, the failed attempt from Hillary. These anti Trump people are going to have a very long next 16 years. Donald will hold office for 8 years and then his daughter will hold the office 8 years after that. She will break the glass ceiling that Hillary failed all too horribly to do.

    • JohnKimball

      You’re absolutely right, they don’t have a clue what they’re protesting anymore. As long as they think they’re fighting against whatever Trump says, then they’re all in. At this point if Trump decided he’s for open borders, they’d probably just get their sharpies out and start changing their signs from “America for all” to “America first”.

  • Bill

    yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwn. Just go away with your silly hat. Please, WNEP, do a story on the rights of anyone to come to America. Just one story. Just one.

    • tired old guy

      Or,,,, how about a story on just how many millions upon millions of people who came here legally, took civic lessons and were sworn in and proud to be citizens of the U.S. and fully expect the Country will work to keep them safe from terrorists and crime and live in peace.

  • Dan

    I wonder the same thing. How would I be treated in some other country. After 9/11 I have a very sour taste in my mouth for people who are not citizens. Also if 25 protesters are going to change the world then bless your hearts.. As for me if your not a citizen of the US. Then Get Out.

  • Jd

    Here’s another question for ya: where were all of these protesters during the last several administration’s. Clearly they’re just lashing out because their candidate lost. Sorry. The days of “everybody gets a trophy” appear to be over.

    • JohnKimball

      Go over there and protest for LGBT rights, and if you’re lucky, they’ll just throw you in a hole for two weeks and then deport you. That’s the culture these hypocrites are saying we should import.

  • nicky

    Give it up WNEP. Your ABC news boss Georgie Boy in NY just won’t recognize the Prez and guess the order is out to affiliates to keep building up the protesters.

  • chaunceythegardner

    It is so important to give away residency and citizenship, so long as it is OTHER PEOPLE bearing the costs. Taxpayers pay the education, hospital bills, OBGYN and birth.
    Anyone who feels so moved to rescue an illegal immigrant can sign a Form I-864, which is a contract with the federal government to be responsible for their new best friend. You guarantee that for 10 years, you will pick up the cost of government services if they require them because they can’t pay themselves. You can be the hero you want others to be. With YOUR OWN MONEY, not other peoples money.

    • Rurbanite

      Wrong, taxpayers are subsidizing billionaires like the President who get corporate welfare in the form of tax writeoffs and subsidies. If billionaires don’t pay their fair share of taxes, who ends up footing the bill? Don’t demonize the hard-working stiffs who are paying for all this.

      • RicU.

        CHILDREN, let’s look at what is REALLY happening. The cabinet is in being approved. The 9th District was Forum Shopped as it is the only one who can generate 29 pages and not speak to the laws referenced in the Exec Order or answer. The cards are now ALL in Trump’s hands. He can appeal and get this trash tossed. He can let it expire in 90-120 days. AND, as is happening, ICE can start picking up illegals and giving them FREE… not really we the working stiffs have to pay for it… back to wherever.

        This is the most brilliant diversion I have seen in a LONG time in politics. Trump learned his trade well in N.Y.M.A. and Wharton.

  • goose

    Maxine Waters- “Putin is invading Korea, all of them. He came up with names for Hilly and Willy. He hacked an election in uhhhhh…lepo !!!”. Nancy Pelosi- “President Bush isn’t my fwend no more cuz of duh reasons. What do you mean there is a different President now?” Seriously? Are you kidding us that THIS is what you are standing behind? If the majority believed ANY of your trash talk, the impeachment process would have already started. Like PJ Watson says, “Wake up doomies”

  • goose

    Left, right or horseshoe group- search “High Impact Flix Truth Lecture” on YT right now. It’s almost 2 hours long, but worth every single second to explain this world around us vehemently.

  • goose

    Copy and paste in your search bar to see what a gay, Jewish, Christian that only dates black guys thinks about all of this. They throw people like him off of roofs, bury women up to their necks and stone them if they even claim to have gotten taken advantage of, might have had something to do with that Barbary slave trade, and want to conquer all “Infidels” by means of involuntary impregnation or other nasty practices outlined in the Q’ran. Best of luck “protestors”

      • WarningFakeNews

        Milo clearly shows by his reception wherever he goes that democrats actually don’t give a wit about the identity politics they claim to hold dear. If you aren’t thinking the way liberals think, they don’t care if you are here from another country, a man preferring men, or that you love black men so much- those are the guys you choose to bed. The liberals should be celebrating Milo’s diversity, but instead choose to riot to try and shut him up.

      • Givemeabreak

        I do agree with you that the majority of Dems in D.C do not care about identity politics but neither do the majority of republicans in D.C. but don’t worry there are still people out here that do care.
        The reason why he gets treated the way he does is because he is a self serving, brand building, dirt bag who uses inflammatory rhetoric and sensationalism to build his fame and wealth. He does absolutely nothing to improve the divide in this country. The more trouble he makes the more attention he gets because it sells advertising.
        The only reason why you like him is because he does not go after old white men.
        I guarantee that any woman, African American, or any other race that used this kind of inflammatory rhetoric directed to old white men at a town hall in rural PA probably wouldn’t make it too far.
        The double standard that you old white men use that stand behind this self promotion slut is exactly the hypocrisy he talks about. But it’s all OK because he isn’t talking about you. Put yourself in someone else’s shoes just once and stop being so led by people that are telling you what you want to hear.
        “The best books are the ones that tell you what you already know”. George Orwell

        He has an audience and he knows exactly what you want to hear. Just another manipulator and divider of the masses. Do you think this man is just trying to help out of the goodness of his heart? The only person he has helped is himself.

      • WarningFakeNews

        Reply to givemeabreak- No, the reason I like Milo as much as I do is that he clearly identifies the lie that is the democrat party’s stance on things. There are a lot of “white guys” I don’t care for, particularly those for big, intrusive government and those on either side of the aisle in it for how wealthy they can become. Milo and I agree politically, and despite all the garbage the left attempts to foist on us about the right being a bunch of racists and homophobes, etc.- the truth is I don’t care at all about what those things and neither do the great majority of republicans and libertarians. That he choose men makes his views no more or less attractive to me, for instance. I’m grateful you conceded the greater point though, that the politicians- for the most part- don’t care about those things they say they believe in. We agree. Imagine that.

  • RicU.

    Let’s look at the Truth. The 9th Circuit Court has been reversed more than any other Circuit as the history of virtual isolation until the 1980s. Wrong headed cheering at this point will only be more painful later. This “Decision” was a Forum Shop. Notice no other Circuit was involved. My guess is this “decision” will be reversed on appeal.

    Meanwhile, local press is clamoring after articles which are diversions. Trump has had cabinet members confirmed and much more progress while the press chases a Red Herring or a “hook slide.”

  • WarningFakeNews

    The law is crystal clear. “Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.” The court issued an illegal ruling, which the 9th circuit panel let stand, all those judges should be impeached and disbarred.

  • Lloyd Schmucatelli

    Wow, what a downward spiral. A vigil is 3 steps below a protest and 1 step above a zombie March. Need to eat brains. Aaahhhhhh

    These people are some mindless drones. Mindless drones, I tell ya. Really sit back and look at what you’re doing, yep, it’s pretty stupid.

    I tell you something else too, if these protest and vigil organizers actually put 10% of the effort into building a business or something like that as they doing to the stupid vigils and protests, we could be well on our way to making America great again!

    • JohnKimball

      Sometimes you can be so open-minded that your brain actually falls right out of your skull. Today’s liberals are fast approaching that point.

  • WarningFakeNews

    The statue granting the president the power to do this is crystal clear, the political hacks in robes aren’t going to be able to block any and all tools the president has at his disposal on this, but if they continue to, there’s going to be further erosion occurring of democrat power- and that’s saying something considering where they find themselves now.

      • WarningFakeNews

        A typo. I’m not a professional news organization, I make one occasionally.

        Oh wait… That’s right, The do, too- don’t they?

      • goose

        That’s just another one of those immortals trolling the comments. The last one that corrected you accidentally said that they were 190 years old. Oh, wait. Same exact argument? Me thinkst thas wun uv dem porters that Reeeeeeeeeeee, and then delete all of the comments. Emoji

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